benghazi. but i'm pleased to have my friend julianna goldman and al hunt. and al joins me this evening in recognizing that i didn't have a tie, so he joins me. so thank you, sir. >> i love the look, charles. you've been covering the fiscal cliff, where are we? >> it is a big question, it's what white house officials are asking. it's what people on capitol hill are asking. as you mentioned the house is going to be voting on this plan b, the alternate measure that john boehner has proposed. it's likely to pass the house but unlikely to pass the senate. so the white house has threatened that they're going to veto it regardless if it were to get to the president's desk. the big question is what happens there. and ultimately it still needs to come down to the president and speaker boehner getting into a room, this is a deal that only the two of them can hash out. >> i thought that is what they were doing. >> you know, they've actually waited until close to the deadline to start to get into the room, to for the negotiations to be one-on-one t was a lesson that they learned back in the summer
